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    Quote Originally Posted by equalizer View Post
    How much money do I need to contribute so I can say whatever I want and not get banned? This site is full of fucking ccccccccccccccccccccccuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnttttt tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ttttttttttttttttssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Speaking personally, I read. Good for you. And to think, you are willing to pay money so you can continue to prove yourself over and over again. How quaint.

    What I think reasonable people understand is that, it is not a right to post in a forum. It is a privilege.

    Members have every right to speak freely. However, members have every right to civil discourse and a decent atmosphere where they can share about any given topic.

    To think someone can pay so as to remain a Troll and verbally assault their member(s) of choice, lends an idea of what that member is about and why they're here. It's not for civil dialog.

    I remember when I first joined this forum someone made a comment about how few active members still remain on board.
    One might infer the reason for that may be due in large part to the Trollism that is allowed to speak freely on these forums.
    Verbally assaulting people, lending no input of worth otherwise to any given thread.

    One can certainly set the emotionally disturbed Troll on Ignore. However, that there is no cost for their actions, and in fact they ask how much they can pay so as to continue to act as Trolls, is telling. Because then one wonders, if they can donate and gain that "privilege" they seek, what the cost is for the decent members who have to continue to be assaulted by them because that Troll thinks they have paid for the right to continue unabated.

    Ban the Trolls so they can never return to these forums, take away the one arena where their social dysfunction thrives, and let them find a forum more fitting to their kind. After all, the net allows for mentally disturbed individuals to flake anonymously without much consequence, save for the chance of banning. Imagine, when you read such people, what they bring to the real world when they venture away from the monitor and out the door.

    If you wouldn't tolerate a sociopath in your face on the street, why would you tolerate them on the forum your hard earned cash and precious time, makes possible? Not to mention, when asking for donations to keep this forum on-line, that the decent people that contribute have every right to be free of Trolls, for their money's worth. Don't you think?

    Either this forum has rules or it doesn't.
    Maybe that the Trolls, the minority here, think those rules don't matter, is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Waters View Post
    I don't know why the chronic aggressive mentally unstable assault behavior of DontBeAfraid has been tolerated on this forum for this long.
    Not quite sure who he/she is but I have had this person on ignore since I came across this thread. I get the having to have thick skin and freedom of speech and all but to use certain words as in "c**t" over and over in anger towards a member is really pushing the envelope for anyone, don't ya think. Just my folks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlindSided View Post
    Not quite sure who he/she is but I have had this person on ignore since I came across this thread. I get the having to have thick skin and freedom of speech and all but to use certain words as in "c**t" over and over in anger towards a member is really pushing the envelope for anyone, don't ya think. Just my folks!

    I've had them on ignore, since shortly after I joined. Stark raving rage and particularly as it is directed toward women for the most part on these forums, is intolerable. Which is why I mentioned that one of the reasons membership is dwindling here could be directly attributable to verbally abusive members such as DBA and others like him.

    As for the "C" word, in my opinion it reflects the degree of respect the male using the term has first and foremost for the initial female role model in his life; mom.

    The hate and disrespect then that vomits forth toward any other female that type of male encounters, is always fostered by their reflections upon the contempt and scorn they developed for the first woman they ever knew. And thus, paints every woman they ever meet in her light.

    Whereas I see the "C" word as a warning that that man who uses it isn't worth knowing after that phrase spits out from their mouth. Mainly because, well quite frankly, they represent in using that term with animus, that they are not very intelligent.

    A woman can either be insulted by the word, or empowered through the opportunity to realize that male who's using it as a verbal assault weapon against her and her sex, is affording her the opportunity to dismiss immediately that male. And thus she is saved immediately from having anything else to do with him. Because he's vile and stupid!


    This woman chooses to be forewarned and empowered, when a weakling of the male sex uses that term. Because in my world, one can not insult a female by using a word that particularly describes a part of her own genitalia! When that genitalia is what makes her uniquely and powerfully female.

    Therefore, in truth, cunts rule the world. If it wasn't for the cunt, stupid weak vile males wouldn't be born into the world. So as to serve as a living example that the one thing women can never ever let happen, is the revocation of their right to access birth control and/or abortion! So as to insure their responsibility for the future as mothers of it. And hopefully, in the process of birth controls being in place, the world will suffer less DBA's et al, for their trouble. ;-)

    DBA is a Troll. I wouldn't doubt he doesn't have sock accounts so as to exercise his dysfunction under different guises in the event he is one day banned.

    Just imagine though. Here you and I can ignore it. In the real world, after he leaves his computer and ventures forth, others have to work much harder, risk much more, to do the same thing for the same reasons.

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    I've had them on ignore, since shortly after I joined. Stark raving rage and particularly as it is directed toward women for the most part on these forums, is intolerable. Which is why I mentioned that one of the reasons membership is dwindling here could be directly attributable to verbally abusive members such as DBA and others like him.
    It is not directed at women more than men... It is directed at stupid

    As for the "C" word, in my opinion it reflects the degree of respect the male using the term has first and foremost for the initial female role model in his life; mom.
    Your opinion is... your opinion. It does not reflect reality. In fact, we have a very long thread in the philosophy section specifically about this word... Go contribute to it.

    The hate and disrespect then that vomits forth toward any other female that type of male encounters, is always fostered by their reflections upon the contempt and scorn they developed for the first woman they ever knew. And thus, paints every woman they ever meet in her light.

    Whereas I see the "C" word as a warning that that man who uses it isn't worth knowing after that phrase spits out from their mouth. Mainly because, well quite frankly, they represent in using that term with animus, that they are not very intelligent.
    lol

    A woman can either be insulted by the word, or empowered through the opportunity to realize that male who's using it as a verbal assault weapon against her and her sex, is affording her the opportunity to dismiss immediately that male. And thus she is saved immediately from having anything else to do with him. Because he's vile and stupid!
    You really should check out the thread about it... all of your issues have been addressed.

    And hopefully, in the process of birth controls being in place, the world will suffer less DBA's et al, for their trouble. ;-)

    DBA is a Troll. I wouldn't doubt he doesn't have sock accounts so as to exercise his dysfunction under different guises in the event he is one day banned.
    Nope, only ever one single account... And you are trolling with this post... I hope you can acknowledge the hypocrisy.

    Just imagine though. Here you and I can ignore it. In the real world, after he leaves his computer and ventures forth, others have to work much harder, risk much more, to do the same thing for the same reasons.
    I use the word as casually in real life as I do here. And cunt is only taboo in the US and for no real reason. Maybe you can make a better argument as to why its perceived as such here than the folks who tried in the other thread. If you can meet the challenge placed in the other thread then I will stop using it completely... But smarter members than you(eg: nu kua) tried and eventually realized that they couldnt...

    Think about it: if you read my posts with a British or Australian accent the word cunt is not offensive at all... Lyca and I happen to agree on this point. Its just a word, used to describe super assholes, it holds no deeper meaning or context to me... If you are so offended by a word then you have a very weak character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontBeAfraid View Post
    Easily dropped off in a back yard or ANYWHERE.
    Meaning he was not directly armed at the moment.

    He didnt use the word aggressive but he did agree that his dog was aggressive.
    When?

    It seems you found enough straw for more straw men... If you fit a suspects description you are a possible suspect. Get over it.
    Nope. Still needs to be verified.

    He didnt barge in anywhere, he confronted the man in the driveway. Driveways, at least here in the US, open onto the street... It makes it easier to park a fucking car on them.
    Cop could have called out to the guy from the car.


    Like I said, the cops in that completely unrelated situation would have to respond to that completely unrelated situation... Try to stick to one topic at a time, your brain isnt built to handle more than that.
    And by your logic. The correct cource of action would be to shoot the hostages.

    He was in the process of DOING THAT when the DOG CHARGED HIM!
    You are wrong.
    And obviously, he made the wrong one.

    You doubt cops are given descriptions over the radio? Or you doubt that descriptions are given to 911 over the phone? What do you doubt? It doesnt matter though because you are wrong.
    It takes an idiot however to take those 100% serious all of the time. As they are tend to be unreliable.

    lol... the cop was TOLD THERE WERE WEAPONS. He doesnt have to see a weapon to use common sense and protect himself when he has been TOLD there are weapons.
    But he still did not see any weapon.

    He pulled his gun out to make sure the suspect didnt go for any weapons. That is standard procedure here in the US. Here in the US, cops carry guns and pull them out before you pull your gun out.
    That would explain why the US has such an high rate of police violence. When the cops are trained to react aggresive first and think later.

    [QUOTE]He was at a place where he was told an armed man had attacked someone moments earlier. He responded appropriately.


    Go re read the story and listen to the interviews from both sides... You are simply incorrect here.

    He was alone on the scene when he arrived... Seriously, do you think its clever to not know a damned thing about a subject before/during/after posting about said subject?

    Ya there was, he was told there was an armed man in the area attacking a female. Unfortunately He wasnt able to determine that he was given the wrong address until after the owners dog tried to attack him.
    Or in other words. The cop completely failed to verify and correctly asses the situation.


    He didnt barge in anywhere.

    The dog and the man were in the back yard... The man decided to come to the driveway for some reason.
    Which would have been a very logical situation when cops suddenly ran at you with guns pointed at you.


    The man could have and should have closed the gate to the backyard when he came out to the driveway but he didnt and his dog got loose.
    The man met the cop in the driveway and the dog came out of the backyard, due to the mans negligence, and charged the cop.
    Still no excuse to shoot the dog. Or excuse the cops incompetence.



    The cop didnt bust into their backyard... Seriously, do you know what a driveway is? These are real questions because your arguments seem to indicate that
    you dont.
    Fact remains however that the cop did not gave the man enough time to respond to the situation.

    And I cant call you a cunt...? Not even when you are apparently TRYING to be one? Like I said, people arent dogs... and that case ISNT THIS CASE...
    So your whole argument is that we are allowed to be less carefull when the lives of animals are concerned.

    Such an animal lover you are.

    The cop was alone when he arrived... How about you read and respond to the story everyone is talking about and not the you are making up in your head.
    Ok, I did mistake an scene that happened after the shooting for one before.

    But its hypocrite for you to complain about this. Concidering you are the one that constantly keeps yelling that the owner stated the dog wass agressive. Despite there not being any evidence for this claim.

    The cop drew his weapon on someone he thought could be armed and dangerous. He told that person to freeze and was ensuring his safety while assessing the situation.
    Or in other words, they sprung up on him fully armed. On somone that just might be armed with a big stick according to unreliable 911 calls.


    That is standard procedure. Most people are going to be nervous or fearful, even if they know they arent in trouble, when a cop is pointing a gun at them.
    Meaning that unlike your previous statements. The situation was not normal at that time. And forgetting the dog for a moment is thus an understandable mistake. And not irresponcible pet owner ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Waters View Post
    Speaking personally, I read. Good for you. And to think, you are willing to pay money so you can continue to prove yourself over and over again. How quaint.

    What I think reasonable people understand is that, it is not a right to post in a forum. It is a privilege.

    Members have every right to speak freely. However, members have every right to civil discourse and a decent atmosphere where they can share about any given topic.

    To think someone can pay so as to remain a Troll and verbally assault their member(s) of choice, lends an idea of what that member is about and why they're here. It's not for civil dialog.

    I remember when I first joined this forum someone made a comment about how few active members still remain on board.
    One might infer the reason for that may be due in large part to the Trollism that is allowed to speak freely on these forums.
    Verbally assaulting people, lending no input of worth otherwise to any given thread.

    One can certainly set the emotionally disturbed Troll on Ignore. However, that there is no cost for their actions, and in fact they ask how much they can pay so as to continue to act as Trolls, is telling. Because then one wonders, if they can donate and gain that "privilege" they seek, what the cost is for the decent members who have to continue to be assaulted by them because that Troll thinks they have paid for the right to continue unabated.

    Ban the Trolls so they can never return to these forums, take away the one arena where their social dysfunction thrives, and let them find a forum more fitting to their kind. After all, the net allows for mentally disturbed individuals to flake anonymously without much consequence, save for the chance of banning. Imagine, when you read such people, what they bring to the real world when they venture away from the monitor and out the door.

    If you wouldn't tolerate a sociopath in your face on the street, why would you tolerate them on the forum your hard earned cash and precious time, makes possible? Not to mention, when asking for donations to keep this forum on-line, that the decent people that contribute have every right to be free of Trolls, for their money's worth. Don't you think?

    Either this forum has rules or it doesn't.
    Maybe that the Trolls, the minority here, think those rules don't matter, is the problem.
    Nobody "pays" to be allowed to verbally insult members. thats absurd..

    they get infractions. And with accumulated infractions they get banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC View Post
    Nobody "pays" to be allowed to verbally insult members. thats absurd..

    they get infractions. And with accumulated infractions they get banned.
    I quite agree, that is absurd.
    However, if you scroll back you'll see that one member here imagines it's possible. And it is to that that I addressed my remarks.

    Meanwhile, I can only hope that one day DBA accumulates enough infractions so as to save the rest of this forum from that obvious mental illness that courses through his immediate local community, and unfortunately travels net wide through his fingertips. "Patience is a Virtue" Rated: R

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    lol... You cant pretend you are better than me WHILE trolling me Mr. Waters.
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    Can I put Lyca on ignore? He is seriously too stupid to have a rational conversation with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angel Waters View Post
    I quite agree, that is absurd.
    However, if you scroll back you'll see that one member here imagines it's possible. And it is to that that I addressed my remarks.
    That same member also assumes that someone can pay enough to become a moderator as well....(absurdity on a higher level) I understand the dilemma of newer members having to weave their way through the personalities that exist here, but such is the nature of public web sites. The staff does try and maintain a level of civility, and there are always people who ( for whatever reasons) push the limit.

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    I certainly do know that. And I appreciate how many hats a person has to wear, when in charge of any forum.

    At least the Ignore function allows us to dismiss those not worth reading. :) Meanwhile, I do know there are folks who will push the limits as far as they'll go. However, what I've found, as a moderator of forums and as an Admin., is that things tend to lighten up or cease, when the limits push back.

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    lol... Every noob is a moderator/admin on another forum...
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    You guys are slipping... Here's a real story of Police misconduct that made my jaw drop.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1470430.html

    An innocent California student was placed in a holding cell after his buddy's house was raided by the Drug Enforcement Administration, and ended up spending nearly five days in his dark prison without food, water or human contact.

    Danny Chong, 24, had been told that he was going to be released on April 20 -- the same day he was detained -- because he wasn't charged with any crime.

    Officers reportedly forgot about him. He told NBC that he was forced to drink his own urine for hydration and ended up carving his own flesh with glass in a fit of psychosis.

    "I had to do what I had to do to survive," he told the station on Tuesday. "I was completely insane."

    Chong's horrific -- and accidental -- stay in the dark holding cell began on April 20, when agents raided a home that Chong where hanging out near UC San Diego. DEA officials said they found some 18,000 ecstasy pills at the home, but that Chong wasn't involved. He was brought in for questioning, but never formally arrested or charged, according to U-T San Diego.

    He was supposed to leave his detention the same day. One officer even offered him a ride home.

    But he was forgotten inside his 5-foot-by-10-foot, windowless enclosure.

    He kicked, screamed and cried as the days passed. He could hear DEA agents on the other side of his heavy door, but they apparently couldn't hear him. He didn't have food, water or a bathroom.

    At one point Chong went so "insane" he broke his glasses with his teeth and carved "Sorry Mom" into his arm.

    By day five -- when corrections officers finally heard Chong's screams for help -- he'd been hallucinating and even attempted to eat broken glass, NBC reported.

    When agents finally found Chong, he was incoherent and had to be taken to the hospital, according to the Associated Press. He was treated for a perforated lung -- an injury consistent with someone who has eaten glass.

    The student's lawyer compared his detention to the famous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. Chong is considering filing a civil lawsuit against the DEA.
    Fucking war on drugs almost cost this man his life.
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    Im hoping this thread can be used to report all misconduct and not just the violent kind?

    Terrance Huff Files Lawsuit Against Illinois Police Officer Michael Reichert Over 'Trekkie Traffic Stop'
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1500394.html

    As HuffPost reported in March, the traffic stop raised a number of questions about law enforcement, the drug war and the Fourth Amendment. It occurred along a stretch of highway know to be a lucrative source of asset forfeiture revenue for state and local police departments. Defense attorneys told HuffPost that stops like the one depicted in Huff's video are common, and that police are known to manufacture traffic infractions to allow for such stops and then manufacture probable cause to conduct drug searches.
    It goes on to talk about several areas of the country called forfeiture corridors where police fleece travelers like some Tijuana cops sweating some San Diego Teenagers. People have a very hard time getting their property back often times needing to travel out of state multiple times at their own expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarch View Post
    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." ~ Martin Luther King Jr
    Took you a while to notice that and connect it to your crusade against bad cops.
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    the innocence of the police ladies...

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    Magic suicide victim kills himself while still in cuffs!!

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...e-in-arkansas/

    A police report says Carter was in the back of a patrol car with his hands cuffed behind his back when officers discovered he'd been shot. He was taken to a hospital, where he later died.
    Wow now that's flexible!

    His original charge? Selling a bag of grass!!!! DEATH PENALTY!!!!!! WTF Im gonna go be pissed for a while now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximumPain View Post
    Magic suicide victim kills himself while still in cuffs!!

    http://www.commercialappeal.com/news...e-in-arkansas/



    Wow now that's flexible!

    His original charge? Selling a bag of grass!!!! DEATH PENALTY!!!!!! WTF Im gonna go be pissed for a while now!
    Are they seriously trying to sell this BS? Some corrupt and unfit coroner will label
    this a suicide and under the rug it will go.
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    Not sure if any of you have read a out this case but there was an update recently.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1847661

    Update: http://m.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-...d-that-/nhc2N/

    So there you have it. Nothing for almost killing and permanently disfiguring that baby. Sick!
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    “I used to tell my kids that if they were ever in trouble, they should go to the police for help,” she wrote. “Now my kids don’t want to go to sleep at night because they’re afraid the cops will kill them or their family. It’s time to remind the cops that they should be serving and protecting our neighborhoods, not waging war on the people in them.”
    That quote from the first article is sadly becoming commonplace. Not to excuse what happened but as violence has escalated, so have the actions of police. Having not read the court documents this is strictly my opinion; an act like without consequences of some kind is outrageous. I hope they can pursue a civil trial. Here's the direct link to the full update article:

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1847661
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