We are not talking about small groups here. But groups that live on attacking towns or other strongholds in the same manner the vikings did in medieval time.
Not likely. Small game like that would not result in enough resources for the entire group to feed on.People are cowards, people are ruthless, people are greedy. These Raiders of yours aren't going to look for "larger prey", they'd most likely take what they could get from who they could get. They'd be like bullies, willing to fight anybody as long as the odds are in their favour.
Sure if they would find a looter they would shoot it and steal resources. But in the end, its far more efficient to go for bigger targets.
My point exactly. Nobody would. Which makes them ideal targets for looting.Why would anybody protect abandoned homes?
Simple. The best place to be in an massive nuclear event is near the coast of farmland. As far away from any target as possible. If it comes to a nuclear winter. It would also be preferable to seek out the ocean for warmth.How do you come up with this?
What was your thought process to determine any of this?
This results in only few locations of a nation suitable of longterm survival.
Which people will flock to. Once those locations are saturated with people that can be fed. The flow of refugees will become dangerous for them. And they will start to fortify. If not done already.
Once the doors are closed. This leaves lots of people shut away from farm and fishing areas forcing to fend for themselves. However, since those groups are not doomed immediately and very likely also armed.
Two groups will form.
Scavengers, which roam the nation scavenging resources and hoping to find a new place.
Or Raiders. Groups of people which will start fighting those towns for resources. Much like the vikings in northern europe did.
These groups will slowly specialize in taking down towns and swarm the region looking for other targets to raid. And a couple of people hiding in a homemade bunker, filled with food and other resources to last a life time. Would be an ideal target. Not defended as much as the towns. While holding far more goods than a town.
In the beginning just an barter system. Where you work for a farmer in return for a meal and a bed each day. But eventually they will invent money again. But that is so far in the future its not even relevant to this debate.So once the SHTF, people in your scenario will still be paying people for work and services? What currency will they be using, Lyca?
If you know where to look its pretty simple. There are lots of plants and animals that are eatable. Knowing basic survival will be your friend.Oh, so you're completely comfortable with the idea of having to locate your own food and shelter for months on end? That's interesting.
Which basically means you end up going to move around as well.I never said that trying to fight people off is the best idea ever either. My plan actually has me going miles away from any city, town, or villages.
Which is actually similar to what I am suggesting.When/if the SHTF, I'm planning on high tailing back to the North where I grew up. Friend of mine has a secluded cabin on a lake in the middle of nowhere. As long as I can get there I know I'll be fine. It's well stocked, and there's enough wildlife and empty land around to sustain a few families without anybody ever knowing.
This completely depends on how many people are aware of that cabin.The hard part, obviously, is getting my ass out of downtown Toronto in the midst of a crisis. The way I see it is that everybody will be fleeing within the first few days. Need provisions and such to wait that out, then when things cool down I start the journey.
If you wait to long. Its bound to get stolen. Which is why its better to move at once.
There is also moving around looting while avoiding everybody else.How are those the only options?
Which is why it is important to go south or near the ocean. If you are stuck inland during the winter. You would end up in huge problems.So weeks, months, potentially years of aimless wandering is your best option during a nuclear winter? I think your plan is flawed.
It would be more effective than just sitting still wouldn't it.So weeks, months, potentially years of aimless wandering is the best way to get into a community during it's "regroup-rebuild" stage? I think your plan is flawed. - Damn, I feel like I'm repeating myself a lot.
If possible, I take them with them .So at what point do you leave your family and friends to go on your one man quest to find a new job in the post apocalyptic world?
Do you give them a week to see if they can rebuild, a month? That's valuable wandering time you're wasting!
On the other hand I could naturally ask what a person building an shelter would do with those relatives for which there is no place.
Yes I noticed.Haha. Okay.
I won't really comment on this part, seeing how you didn't know what my actual plan was when you wrote this.
I was assuming you were planning on building an homemade shelter and stocking it with food to last a lifetime.