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Aug 8th, 2011, 10:59 PM #26
Galadriel: "I amar prestar aen. Han mathon ne nen. Han mathon ne chae. A han noston ne 'wilith. "Translation: "The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air."
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Sep 4th, 2011, 1:48 AM #31
I'm sorry... I'm still stuck on "DINOSUARES".
Functionally speaking, it translates to... "bad pig herder".
Now that made me laugh! Especially when thinking of many different religions and their leadership/patronage.
Synchronicity I guess.
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Han shot first... ;)
Jan 29th, 2013, 12:34 PM #32
I thought this was interesting: http://www.mokelembembe.com/
I remember watching a documentary about it from the 80s. People in the Congo who had no knowledge of dinosaurs, identified their Mokele Mbembe as looking like a dinosaur... Which a European traveler had drawings of.
Also, theoretically, the bible could describe two types of dinosaurs. The leviathan could be, in reason (if not for the fact they are thought to be completely extinct) a plesiosaur, and the behemoth could be a brontosaurus of some sort. It wouldn't be a hippo or mammoth, because neither have tails like a cedar tree.
It is unreasonable to say humans and dinosaurs lived side by side in similar epochs. However, I am not completely in favor of the view that all of the large reptiles went extinct. I do not find it completely impossible that some may have survived.
-Possible carcass of a plesiosaur? http://paleo.cc/paluxy/plesios.htm
-Mokele Mbembe: http://natgeotv.com/za/beast-man/vid...mbembe-witness
-I can't find the link, but apparently for some time there was what would be described as a pterodactyl living near Pacific islands. I can't remember what the villagers called this beast, so I can't find it for the moment.
Is it a coincidence that these ancient people put on stones images of large lizards (that may be an origin of dragon myth) or was this just their wild imagination that coincided with a triceratops or T-rex? (From Peru).
Normally, I would identify this as a stegosaurus:
For those who scoff, remember that it wasn't too long ago that we thought this fish (Coelacanth) had been extinct for millions of years:
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Mar 2nd, 2013, 6:35 AM #33
I loved the "Jesus with baby T-rex" picture When I was a little boy, I just loved to read about the dinosaurs. I found Sunday school to be interesting too, though I never thought to combine them. Do little girls like dinosaurs too? Probably not, since boys often, but girls less often, like living lizards and frogs. The whole idea of G-d loving animals is something I can resonate with, I love animals (though like any meat eater, with irony), though some much more than others. Just not a plant person, though the plants need our care also along with the whole biosphere. If there were more animal lovers, whether they get it from Jesus or not, we would be better stewards of the Earth.
On the question of Jesus loving dinosaurs in the present tense ... in eternity, time doesn't matter, since everything is in the present tense ... so if there was a Jesus (well lots of Jewish boys got that name anyway), then there is a Jesus now (that response in the Gospel confounded Jesus' critics regarding King David), and while they may seem extinct to us, the dinosaurs still roam, and not just in Jurassic Park. I certainly plan on visiting one of my favorite phylums when I have the opportunity. Does anyone out there have a soft spot for trilobites?
Mar 5th, 2013, 5:37 AM #34
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Considering how birds tend their chicks, and court their mates, the birdlike nature of dinosaurs suggests that dinosaurs may have been some of the first large things to show affection to each other.
And yes, some little girls loved dinos even before they were popular children's toys...
One little girl, way back before eggs were found in Mongolia, looked at the vast bones in the Smithsonian, thought of them as works of art, and decided to be a scientist, at the age of 4!
Folks need to stop picking on ol Darwin. Most people never actually read what he had to say, instead they argue and reargue the old stuff that Huxley the atheist argued in Darwin's name.
Darwin wrote in the preface to his third edition of Origin of the Species, "I believe there is a benevolent God who is continuously improving the species
It was Huxley who proposed "If God no evolution, if evolution no God. Apparently Darwin believed in both...
Mar 5th, 2013, 8:15 PM #35
Well it was both Wallace and Darwin who proposed the theory, based on an idea from Malthus. Malthus still threatens humans with exponential extinction on several levels. Freud famous took up the notion that sexual attraction and maximal reproduction was the biological ideal, though he mostly dealt with the sexual disfunction of rich Jewish women
The free market capitalists were labeled Social Darwinists by socialists like Spencer, Galton and Huxley for their own political purposes. Spencer was the original neo-lib (totalitarian progressivism), Galton originated eugenics (in which 1920s America was the leader, but Nazis put it into practice in the 30s and 40s), and Huxley and the rest of his brood simply wanted to be notorious. Survival of the fittest was redefined by people with different agendas ... to militant imperialism and industrial capitalism (neo-con or totalitarian authoritarianism). We are suffering even today from these twin plagues. I think Malthus is more the father of neo-cons than Darwin, though Darwin was a fellow traveler of British imperialism.
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