There you go! Even the Jews themselves tell you that a war with Iran spells big trouble for the entire world:
http://presstv.com/detail/224490.htmlIran attack will culminate in all-out war in Middle East: former IDF chief
The former Chief of Staff of Israel's Defense Forces (IDF) says launching a military strike against Iran will culminate in a full-blown war and engulf the whole Middle East.
Lieutenant General Amnon Lipkin-Shahak said, “Almost the entire senior hierarchy of Israel's military and security establishment” is worried about such attack.
“It is quite clear that much, if not all, of the IDF leadership do not support military action at this point,” The Independent quoted Shahak as saying. ...
Maybe this is just the opinion of some European diplomat working in Pakistan. But on the other hand, he might have some insights we don't have...
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...185684,00.html'Israeli attack will prompt Pakistani response'
... Is the world counting down to "D-Day"? After US Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta estimated that Israel would attack Iran by June, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned government officials against "Iran chatter," A European diplomat based in Pakistan said that if Israel attacks, Islamabad will have no choice but to support any Iranian retaliation.
The diplomat's statement raised the specter of putting a nuclear-armed Pakistan at odds with Israel, which is widely believed to have its own significant nuclear arsenal.
Timing wise the invasion of Iran will likely be anywhere from march 15 to the end of march. All you have to do is look at previous bombings or invasions in recent times.
March 24 1999 - June 10th 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia
War in Iraq March 20 2003 until December
Intervention In Libya March 19th 2011- October
Just a hunch?
"The problem with the world is the intelligent are full of doubts while the stupid are full of confidence." - Bukowski
I don't quite know how the Turks would react in such a case... Some may say, "Turks are 85 % Sunni, they are happy to see Shiite Iran going down." But one shouldn't forget that the Turkish people are Muslims just like the Iranians and once Iran is being attacked by a Judeo-Christian alliance... well, I don't know if the common people on the streets of Istanbul will be happy about that or if they are going to care so much about Turkey being a member of the NATO. After all, they might harbor some thoughts of revenge for the Mavi Marmara incident that left nine Turks dead back in 2010. This attack was deeply humiliating and the Turks are a proud people, we should keep that in mind. They won't forget what's been done to them on that day...
I am thinking Israel will attack before the middle of April. I am thinking this will cause a shit storm, with the US coming down on the side of Israel. Turkey will side with the US on this, as they have no love for Iran. At the same time, being a member of NATO, if things escalate, they will want the US to be on their side instead of either sitting out or being on the losing side with any muslim state that sides with Iran.
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http://www.infowars.com/foreign-emba...est-gas-masks/Foreign Embassies in Israel Plan Evacuation, Request Gas Masks
The news media in Israel this evening reports foreign embassies are organizing contingency plans for the evacuation of their nationals and diplomats and are requesting gas masks from the Israeli Foreign Ministry.
Diplomats and their families are worried about a missile strike that may prompt a mass evacuation of Israeli citizens with passports. The European Union does not currently have the resources to undertake an evacuation of its citizens in a short period of time. Israeli officials have provided embassies with a list of public bomb shelters in the country and an instructional pamphlet produced by the IDF, Ynetnews.com reports.
Earlier on Tuesday, Lebanon’s Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said Iran will not ask the group to retaliate if Israel strikes Iran. He said by video link to supporters that Hezbollah would make the decision in the event of an Israeli attack. “There is speculation about what wound happen if Israel bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities,” Nasrallah said. “I tell you that the Iranian leadership will not ask Hezbollah to do anything. On that day, we will sit, think and decide what we will do.”
According to estimates, Hezbollah has more than 40,000 rockets in its arsenal. Most are of the Katyusha variety with a range under 100 kilometers. It also possesses several hundred Iranian Zelzal-2 missiles with a range between 100 and 400 kilometers.
In 2010, the Pentagon reported the Shi’ite group also has 40 to 50 Fatah-110 missiles and 10 Scud-D missiles. The Fatah can be accurately target and reach most of Israel, including Tel Aviv.
In November 2009, it was estimated that if war broke out, Hezbollah would launch 400 to 600 rockets a day and would be able to sustain the attacks for at least two months.
During the 2006 Lebanon War Hezbollah fired about 3,699 rockets into Israel.
Damnit, that's not what this thread is about is it?
On Topic: I saw an article yesterday about how joint forces, both foreign and domestic are conducting beach raid games on the US east coast. They are fighting in this war game an opponent much like the Iranian military. I'll try and see if I can find the article.
If you are indeed in Germany, I can completely understand your frustration with the Turkish community, and realize you may indeed have a far different opinion on Turkey than I do, as well as ol' Blu. From what I have read, many in your country consider Turks along the same line as the early Jews spoke about the locust swarms in the old testament.
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@ Blu-Ray: That's some scary news. 20.000 troops getting ready for an amphibious attack on Iran... those poor devils...
Turkey has trade ties with Iran and is ignoring the US sanctions.
While they received toys from the US, they probably won't like it that one of their trade partners gets attacked. Exactly what problems has Iran caused them?
Chances are they won't like the US attacking Iran.
It is my believe they will remain neutral unless Israel does something stupid.
All that needs to happen for the powder keg to explode is Syria (which has a defense treaty with Iran) committing a gigantic atrocity (like slaughtering an entire city, as an "example" to the rest of the populace) and there you will have the excuse to invade Syria where... Oh right, Iranian troops are helping the current government suppressing the revolt. Once the Iranian troops in Syria are forced to fight US troops, the US will have an excuse to attack Iran.
So, those Iranian troops are not only helping mr. Assad, they are also there to make sure no extremes ensue (by a frustrated Syrian government (in whatever form)) which might just be used as an excuse to attack. Remember the Iranian focus on asymmetrical warfare? This means that those soldiers know exactly what to do and how to behave and have little need to communicate with central command.
As it stands the fight will start with an invasion of Syria. Oh, did I mention that Syria is also protected by Russia and China?
Last edited by Confuzion; Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:53 PM. Reason: Additional explanation
http://presstv.com/detail/225791.htmlPakistan to support Iran against Israel
The Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain has reiterated his country’s support for the Islamic Republic of Iran in case of an Israeli regime’s attack.
Wajid Shamsul Hasan told the British The Sun newspaper that “Pakistan would be left with no option but to support Iran if Israel attacks it”. “We wouldn’t like to be seen as part of Israel’s campaign against any country. If Israel attacks Iran, it will have an impact on Pakistan as well”, said the Pakistani High Commissioner to Britain. “We will have to safeguard our own interests. We also have a Shia population in Pakistan who will not take it lying down”, he stressed.
The Pakistani official warned Britain to help stop the U.S. "Drone Wars" that are slaughtering hundreds of its innocent civilians. Wajid Shamsul Hasan said that his country's relations with America are at their lowest ebb. "Patience is definitely reaching exhaustion levels", he said. ...
The idea of acceding Turkey to the EU was the dumbest idea of the last century. It's still dumb.
Anyways, don't listen to Blu, he's biased. One of Turkey's biggest industries is still sex slavery and "certain types" will predictably think more about their own porn supply than they do about the greater good of humanity.
Ain't that right Blu?
Anyways, go talk to some Armenians if anyone is the least bit interested.
http://rt.com/news/israel-iran-war-exercise-990/Hundreds die: Pentagon secret war game runs Israeli strike on Iran
An Israeli attack on Iranian nuclear sites may quickly spiral out of control and result in a large regional war, a Pentagon war game predicts. American casualties would be counted in hundreds at least.
The two-week game held by Central Command called Internal Look played on a scenario in which Israel carried out an air strike on Iranian facilities. Retaliation for this act targets both the Jewish state and the American forces in the region since, they presume, Iranians would hold them complicit in the attack.
Results of the game are classified, but according to leaked details Iran managed to down at least one American warship in the Persian Gulf, killing 200 crew members on board, reports The New York Times. Separate strikes by Israel and the US managed to delay Iran’s nuclear program by just three years.
The simulated conflict escalated into a wider regional war, showing that a possible attack on Iran would likely have unforeseeable and uncontrollable consequences. The result raises concern among those US military and civilian officials who are skeptical over Israel’s capability to deal a serious blow on Iran’s nuclear facilities through use of force. ...
North Korean rocket to be launched April 12-16.
Some doubt the last nuke test dubbed as unsuccessful, was a test of super EMP bomb. If so, NK has the capability to knock down may be half of US continental grid, if explodes the bomb over Pacific Ocean close enough to USA.
Should North Korean rocket avoid the airspace of Japan and South Korea, remains the northern-eastern route briefly over Russia that will lead it South of Alaska and West of California - the route used by airplanes too.NK will technically not violate the US airspace, until the moment the rocket "malfunctions" on some 300-500 km on low orbit - perfect condition for EMP.
Remains to determine WHY should North Korea do that, and what wider repercussions that will have for the world. I hope that is a failed hypothesis. We will know just after the Easter.
The question is whether it is legal or illegal in Turkey (probably highly illegal). Or are you talking about arranged marriages? That's a cultural thing, not a judicial thing.
If it's a criminal thing in Turkey, how much are they doing about it? And how much is corruption at play here?
Now, Turkey is an Islamic country with a western culture. Now, that would greatly help us understand the Arab countries. So, what's wrong again with allowing Turkey in the EU?
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