Lazarus Died, was brought BACK TO LIFE, by Jesus, where is he now

[Bob]

REo you actually, really THINK I read all that stuff by Larry? No. I came just to see whats up... no one can help but notice the thread ....again.

So, whats your motivation, eh?
I must say, that for a person who generally has disdain for most people and all Churches, you share a peculiar trait seen in the majority of other Christians. That is that although you dont like them, you spend an inordinate amount of time trying to "save" them.

Why is that....is there some ulterior motive, strings attached to this "saving"

I heard that they give you green stamps and you can exchange them for plates and silverware. They also validate parking until 2pm.

[LucySmith]

bob, why make excuses to stop by?



dont remain spiritually dead man - get a life - a divine life that is one that the Saviour came to give to all men - if they Believe.
as for the church system - it too has failed to edify the pew people with the truth of 'death has been abolished'' by the gospel.

[LucySmith]

rev....



the world bases their belief on knowledge.... of good or of evil.

however.

Jesus based His Belief ON WISDOM.

wisdom is very different than knowledge.

you see Wisdom *IS* LIFE.
wisdom calls, we are told.
the overcomers hear her call.......................................

''get wisdom''

if the church system had wisdom this world would be filled with Messiahs.....
you believe the theories of the church system - you only have knowledge - there is NO life in knowledge.

WISDOM produces SKILLED WORKMEN FOR IT IS A DIVINE SPIRIT.





Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. MEN HAVE KNOWLEDGE - they remain mere men and die.
Yeshua - had WISDOM, THE DIVINE SPIRIT OF LIFE AND LIVETH.

knowledge as no power but death.
WISDOM IS ALL POWERFULL - IT IS LIFE.

there are NO ''lifer's'' in the church system, only walking corpses ''let the dead bury the dead''................................
knowledge does this.

[LucySmith]

the LEPER room.

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this name came to mind today, about all those creeds and beliefs and traditions men consider the truth and believe lie.
THE WHOLE RELIGIOUS BELIEF is one of a leper - UNCLEAN.

WHY?

SHOW me 1 person in 2000yrs that has been reproduced by any religious belief, denomination, tradition that is in the image of the saviour in Ministry and deed.

lepers abound.


salvation- is not dying to go to heaven - but living here in the same likeness as the Messiah - wearing His anointed life to bring forth the kingdom of heaven on earth.

[James Random]

Lazerus is in the Bible. The only place he has ever existed except for within the imaginations of the stupid and gullible. And is thus immortal since the stupid and
gullible show no signs of diminishing any decade now.

[LucySmith]

but who is the judge of what is stupid and what is gullible,?
now that is the question.

the stupid think they are right
the gullible think they are right
so why judge people who are right?
ummm.

the stupid dont know they are stupid nor the gullible know they are gullible.......

as for Lazarus - He liveth -

[Beatnik Bob]

as for Lazarus - He liveth -

Well of course. He updates/tweaks AO occasionally. He couldn't do that if he was dead...

[James Random]

but who is the judge of what is stupid and what is gullible,?
now that is the question.

the stupid think they are right
the gullible think they are right
so why judge people who are right?
ummm.

the stupid dont know they are stupid nor the gullible know they are gullible.......

as for Lazarus - He liveth -

If you're willing to place your belief in a 2000 year old book
that has been horribly mistranslated and has no verifiable
sources: you're stupid and gullible.

[LucySmith]

lazarus liveth.....no man can die twice.

[LucySmith]

TO OBEY HIS SAYINGS - brings a person into the same LIFE as HE LIVED IN



THAT IS WHY HE SAID AS HE DID.
IT WAS HIS TEXT BOOK TO HIS LIVING TEMPLE.
His sayings were what He did and it was impoded into His life force - so HE COULD SAY '' I AM THE LIFE'' - therefore HIS SAYINGS OBEYED - BECOME an overcomers life force too.

these are the WORKS a believer learns to live by - they are NOT FROM THIS WORLD u see but from HIS KINGDOM.

WE cannot tamper with them nor twist them to mean something else - if we do we die in sin.
HIS WORDS OBEYED - stop our sin from exercising its rights - or in other words - IT ALLOWS satan NO HOLD UPON US.

i do realise very few people understand THIS MYSTERY.... but some do....
why do some and not all understand?

because God is taking out a people for HIS NAME [ His immortal character in them] and these are a peculiar people who rule and reign with him IN THE LIKENESS OF THE SAVIOUR ----- EXACTLY LIKE HIM.
Father is NOT saving the whole world today - NO - He is EQUIPPING HIS OVERCOMINGS to be HEIRS OF SALVATION and heirs are like the Father in all ways.

GRACE ALLOWS the overcomers to become BEGOTTEN= freedom from the curse of adam... amen
http://vallejo.ural.net/1992/show.php?013

[LucySmith]

i wish to show u a revelation



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REVELATION - the OT fixed law was REMOVED

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who knows about this?

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did you know a CHANGE HAPPENED 2000yrs ago.........

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a law changed and not many really noticed, as they were too too busy being religious

let me tell you so you begin to understand it in practical terms.


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if you are healthy and walk into the room filled with people with swine flu, you will get their flu. You cannot give them YOUR HEALTH.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?
It is totally impossible to give all these sick people YOUR HEALTH, yet, they can give you their flu.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

2000yrs ago this law was changed
MESSIAH
SAVIOUR
YESHUA
came to ALTER THIS LAW.

WHAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE is now possible


JESUS CAN GIVE YOU HIS HEALTH
JESUS CAN GIVE YOU HIS LIFE.


THE old former law has been DONE AWAY WITH but To few understand how it works.

do you?

people 2000 yrs ago watched the impossible happen. A man could give others HIS HEALTH.
a Man could give others HIS LIFE.

the impossible became possible.

there is NO way any person could do this because a FIXED LAW was in place.
This law was removed.


http://vallejo.ural.net/1992/show.php?013

[MHz]

So the solution would be to get to the door, put down the medicine and knock and leave and refuse any parting gifts as they would be equal to small-pox blankets to the indians. That solve the problem?

[LucySmith]

from Larry wilson [australia]
http://members.westnet.com.au/dwilson/

PROPHETIC MESSAGE

“When you enter the Sonship realm it is as if you enter the refining fire where all the dross of your natural soul is burnt and consumed in the fire of His perfecting. It is where all perceived fears and weaknesses are cut off. It is where all unknown weaknesses are brought out in order that you might recognise them and seek His overcoming deliverance and strength.

It is where His Glory burns out of you all the lying false pronouncements of man over you and He speaks into your very soul that you are a Son of the Most High God, and a priest of the highest order of Melchizedek, and every hurt every lie every falsehood of man is lifted from your soul that has kept you bowed down under the spirit of anguish and defeat, and He lifts you to partake of the renewing power of His Spirit to your mind and soul and now you have an awareness that causes you to cry “Abba Father”.

All of a sudden your earthly shackles of false security are riven. The fetters of death are loosed from your mind and the chains of the Adamic nature are loosed from your mind. The prison doors of man’s dominion are broken open and the Light of His Glory lifts you into the Glory of His presence.

You don’t want to leave it. You can’t leave it. It is a consuming Light.

You will willingly surrender all things for His perfection. You will awaken to new values, a new order. You will be shown the darkness of the world and the bondage of religion in order that you might partake the joy of their deliverance.

You see only Jesus. You see Him as God. He is your teacher; He is your life, your mercy. He is your perfection”.

from Jesus Kingdom truths.

[LucySmith]

Hermes, regarding Immortality

77. Why , O Men of the Offspring of the Earth, why have you delivered yourself over unto death, having power to partake of immortality? Repent and change your minds, you that have together [the collective human race consciousness] walked in Error, and have been darkened in ignorance.

78. Depart from that dark light, be partakers of immortality, and leave and forsake corruption [negative mentalism followed by entropy].

79. And some of them that heard me, mocking and scorning, went away, and delivered themselves up to the way of DEATH.

80. But others casting themselves down before my feet, besought me, that they might be taught; but I causing them to rise up, became a guide of mankind, teaching them the reasons how, and by what means they may be saved. And I sowed in them the words of Wisdom, and nourished them with the AMBROSIAN WATER of IMMORTALITY [The Knowledge, Wisdom, and Understanding of The SPIRIT of LIFE --peripheral fountain of Eternal Youth].

Excerpts from: Divine Pymander (1604). Page 41 and 42. Hermes Mercurius Trismegistus (possibly the ancient Enoch of old).

Straight is the way, and narrow the gate (of Knowledge) for only a "few" will find it.

[LucySmith]

it is interesting to have our mind awakened to the facts that we are all a spiritual being - first and foremost - lowered into vanity unwillingly - to be tested and tried to find out who are the sons of God and His heirs of salvation?
there is a religious broadway and a RELATIONSHIP narrow way, so it seems the sons and heirs have been choosen for the narrow way walk into the Image of Christ.
This vanity world is a dark matter world and one of illusion and hypnotic trances and all worldly religions live in this realm - with some form of godliness yet a counterfeit remains and men die of sin - no matter their good intentions and their personal beliefs.

In a relationship with the Saviour - one does not have their own belief but the one that allowed the Saviour to live normally rather than abnormally or in a supernatural way. Jesus was this God in man - therefore THE CHRIST GOD IN HIM - worked beautifully. Jesus was a man who allowed a christ TO DOMINATE his life - this is the way HE BECAME THE LIFE.

RELIGION is a system that tries to ''improve a flawed model''

RELIGION ROBS YESHUA OF HIS RIGHT TO BE PRESENT in your presence - THEREFORE- do not try to live your life for Him - but LET HIM BE YOUR LIFE..
therefore IF He is your life - how can you die?
therefore as He is the new high priest of endless and imperishable life - how can ye die?
why not stop being religious and begin a RELATIONSHIP OF LIFE.?

what religion ever made a person into the same image as the Saviour............
the religious system bears rotten flawed fruit............................................. ..
sin kills
the pews live in sin
the pews die.

if Jesus was the Pastor, would He give a furneral service?
''hey spot the difference''.

[MHz]

By putting people in the grave has He made them a captive audience who have no choice but to listen when it is time for His voice to be heard in the grave. Technically how does it work when the breath of life is in heaven from the moment of death and the dust is left on this earth. It would seem that the breath of life comes back to claim the dust rather than the dust going to where the breath of life is.

1Pe:4:6:
For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead,
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.

How thoughtful of God to find a way to save even those who would normally be found to be a sinner and as such be marked for punishment.

Just how many people do you think a perfect Shepherd would not be able to help find this 'door'?

Re:21:24:
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it:
and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
Re:21:25:
And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day:
for there shall be no night there.
Re:21:26:
And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
Re:21:27:
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination,
or maketh a lie:
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

[HindSight]

The Book of Mary and the Book of Judas - both removed from the Bible - say Lazarus was murdered by Jews three weeks after the 'resurrection' so Jesus would NOT be credited with his restoration. When Jesus went into Beth. for the last time, it was one of the things he held against the church and money changers.

[LucySmith]

then the bible is a liar and cannot be trusted for it says a person can only die once and then the resurrection.....

[LucySmith]

Jesus said Few find eternal life
therefore what do the rest find?

ask
why did Jesus come - to set the captives free?
who were 'the captives'? - those under the law of sin and death.
how did He do it?
by the Gospel - 'He abolished death - meaning physical death ''
by ''destroying the works of the devil - who had the keys [opening gates] to hell and death.

now for 2000yrs - the Gospel has been mispresented as futuristic ...namely ''we die and go to heaven''
now this is rather strange when ''heaven is within'' us according to the NT.
this strange man made church gospel has promoted death as a friend - rather than the last enemy to be overcome here and now.

religious people believe a 'different' gospel rather than the 1 Messiah preached of His eternal life and everlasting kingdom.
religious people like the OT hebrews have made a 'covenant with death' and belief the church of their choice, rather than the belief of the Saviour who said '' those who keep my sayings shall never see death''.
they have never become the new creature of the New high Priest and His new creation.
nor have any received the power life of John 10 v 10 to remain IN THE LIFE ABUNDANT.

[MHz]

The Book of Mary and the Book of Judas - both removed from the Bible - say Lazarus was murdered by Jews three weeks after the 'resurrection' so Jesus would NOT be credited with his restoration. When Jesus went into Beth. for the last time, it was one of the things he held against the church and money changers.

Technically they never made it into the Bible, It was a tossup for Enoch but Revelation won out as it was shorter and more about the return, Enoch was summed up in Jude, the visions can wait for later when an immortal man can safely and leisurely travel the stars realm.

Today the Church should be the money changers, all Gentiles in the world would get interest free personal loans. Fitting punishment for the RCC, they already have a Bank, just transfer all the money over from the Rothschild and start off by dividing yo the $500T into 7B people and then dive into splitting up the main chunk.

$71,428.57 each and then a weekly pay-check from the merchant sector and the ones who do pay interest on loans. lol

[LucySmith]

Father's plan is to reproduce Himself in physical BODIES like the Saviour reproduced His father's will.
These matured sons of God become as an open heaven or ''windows of heaven'' so they pour out blessings upon all men.

[HindSight]

why do you think certain gnostics were taken out of the bible? To present one message, right or wrong.

[weederbro]

‘’why do you think certain gnostics were taken out of the bible? To present one message, right or wrong.’-Hindsight

That one message was simple and elaboration of the texts beyond their intended part in the spiritual harmony of the Word, was discouraged.
Thomas for instance departed from the spirit of the reference about Yeshua’s ‘sword of the Spirit’, which is the Word. His behaviour was to always yield and was never violent.
Thomas wields a literal sword so it’s weeded out.

I’m surprised Enoch was left out of scripture though. He has valuable information about the prophetic calendar, which the Babylonian influence on
the priests had conspired to distort.
It helps reveal a countdown in ‘times’ and ‘weeks of years’ which arrive exactly at various pivotal developments concerning the nation of Israel,
and the Word Of Yah.
The world just happens to be in prophetically revealed circumstances regarding where mankind finds itself right now and Yah’s intentions.

[LucySmith]

try to work out the MYSTERY...................

GIVE GOD back the control of His life - just as Jesus did.

it is a mystery.

you see our true Life is spirit.
we are a spiritual being in an earthen vessel.
God is spirit.

[LucySmith]

Father's plan is to reproduce Himself in physical BODIES like the Saviour reproduced His father's will.
These matured sons of God become as an open heaven or ''windows of heaven'' so they pour out blessings upon all men.

this is an interesting comment = a tree called God...

in part saying

“I am the Vine, and You are the branches!”

I “came into the discovery and recovery of my Divine Consciousness” that I finally “inner-stood” this profound saying.

It transcends the christianized comprehension that I grew to “adore.”

It became a statement much bigger than that.

It actually meant that I, as well as YOU, are intricate components of the Divine Reality of God. Christ Consciousness is the substance and we are natural byproducts of an overall, encompassing Reality called “God!”

Christ is the Vine (trunk) while we are the extensions of an Unlimited, Divine Force of Power, Wisdom, Love, and Everythingness,” called “God!”

We are “the form” of God, walking in the earth daily! Such an incredible reality. Everything that He is, we are..NOW!





Therefore, I am not obligated to be sick and die.


I am not obligated to be impoverished!
I am not obligated to live in the prison of hopelessness!





I am “the branch” of a tree called God...


http://web.mac.com/drundraifizer/Sit...lled_God!.html