Forum: Pre-Modern & Modern

I'm sure this thread has been done before but I'm curious as to the most current general understanding of Civil War by AO's current general population. What started it? What sustained it? Was it successful and for whom? What were it's immediate and long term effects?

I'm not sure this is limited to the "modern history" period, but seeing as this is history related, it belongs somewhere here. Anyway, I thought I'd make a thread about all the history that has been omitted from the books. It's a thread I'd like people to add to. If anyone has any history segment that has been taken out of public knowledge, or misrepresented, posting it here would be very informative and interesting! :2thumbs: I thought I'd start us off by listing something omitted in many common history books, as well as a perpetuated misnomer: -The 1921 race riot in Tulsa Oklahoma. During the riot, which was almost a battle in some respects, black WWI veterans dug trenches and formed battle lines: Tulsa became a war-zone. Also, at one point, dynamite was reported to have been dropped from airplanes onto black ghettos, killing 75 blacks and over 1000 homes. This is rarely mentioned in U.S. histories, despite the fact that the Tulsa riots were the deadliest and costliest in American history. ...

I wanted to start a discussion concerning "land rights" from a historical perspective. How should we view land that was taken by another group? Is the previous group still entitled to that land? Is Poland entitled to parts of Belarus and Ukraine--land that the Soviet Union stole. Is Germany entitled to East Prussia and Königsberg? Land that the Soviet Union took and (in the case of East Prussia) gave to Poland. Who should own South Tyrol, Strasbourg, and others?

And everyone thought he was a nice guy... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1389338/New-books-claim-OK-Corral-gunfight-case-good-v-evil-Wyatt-Earp-bad-victims.html " broke jail on a charge of horse theft back in Indian territory as a young man. Technically, he was a fugitive from the law his entire life. Nobody out in the West was completely pristine." "Wyatt had a well-earned reputation for toughness from his days as a deputy in the Kansas boomtowns of Dodge City and Wichita, preferring to 'Buffalo' - or pistol whip - his adversaries rather than shooting them." Here's an example of his "Buffalo" technique in action...

It's one of those myths that linger... probably because the gold was found 'right away', but French Law would've been levied more 'brutally' then. -6 coffins filled with gold, hidden on Corsica, or off its coast. The stash was on the African mainland, to pay for supplies as the AfrikaCorps conquered Egypt and continued-on to Baghdad, supposedly. Bribing tribes for this 'n that. But things didn't work-out. The stash was brought back to Tunisia, then combined with valuables that were looted from Tunisian Jews. The dates all begin to ring untrue. Why would somebody panic too early, when the campaign was still active, and try to secretly send the gold back to Europe? The U-301 theory needs the treasure to be 'on' Corsica by January, 1943; http://uboat.net/boats/patrols/patrol_4768.html The UJ-(Jager)2219 theory transpires in September, 1943; http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/43-09.htm

I wrote this quite a while back but you guys may want to do a little analysis on it now that things have been moving on a bit. HOW GUERRILLA WARFARE OPERATES Since the terrorist attacks in the USA this past week, it has become painfully obvious that the majority of people have no idea of what exactly is going on. These terrorists did not do what they did in order to attract attention to some cause or other! They did not do this as some kind of revenge disorder! This is simply the opening salvo of a protracted guerrilla war that has been launched against the US and their allies, that will probably continue for decades. The ultimate objective being, the eventual overthrow of the US as a state and the destruction of her constitution! The existing government is to be replaced with a new regime that is to be more in tune with the ideals of the attackers. The motivation for this war is the propagation of an ideology. Obviously one that is violently opposed to every thing that the US currently...

Hoping this thread can take off a bit. Always an interesting thing to do! On Janurary 19: 1840: American explorer Charles Wilkes completes the voyage that confirms Antarctica is a continent. 1915: German Zeppelins begin the first ever strategy bombing campaign, hitting Great Yarmouth and King's Lynn. 1917: Approximately 50 tons of TNT exploded at a munitions factory in Silvertown in West Ham, present-day Greater London, killing over 70 people and injuring over 400 others. 1942: Japan invades Burma, igniting the longest World War Two campaign fought by British troops 1983: The Nazi SS officer Klaus Barbie was arrested in Bolivia, 32 years after having fled to Argentina with the help of the US Army US Army Counterintelligence Corps.

Just a little history when you're out shopping for those the high end goodies. Quoted from the "awful truth"[/I "The affidavit of Karl Sommer. Sommer was an SS officer working in the Economic and Administrative Main Office (EAMO) in 1942, becoming its departmental head in 1944. EAMO was responsible for giving companies access to prisoners for slave labor (kind of a fore-runner of modern temp agencies). After the war, Sommer was interviewed by the US Chief of Counsel on his activities under the Nazi regime, and specifically, about which companies used Nazi slave labor. Sommer said that the firms, after filling the necessary prerequisites, were allowed to come in to the camps and choose the prisoners they wanted. Even after seeing the horrible conditions in these camps, seeing the death, starvation, torture... these firms chose to take some of these people and exploit them for profit. The first such firm named on Sommer's list is BMW, which makes 4 further appearances on the list. Altogether,...

brief history of attempts to create the jewish nation. In 1820, in a precursor to modern Zionism, Mordecai Manuel Noah tried to found a Jewish homeland at Grand Island in the Niagara River, to be called "Ararat," after Mount Ararat, the Biblical resting place of Noah's Ark. He erected a monument at the island which read "Ararat, a City of Refuge for the Jews, founded by Mordecai M. Noah in the Month of Tishri, 5586 (September, 1825) and in the Fiftieth Year of American Independence." Some have speculated whether Noah's utopian ideas may have influenced Joseph Smith, who founded the Latter Day Saint movement in Upstate New York a few years later. In his Discourse on the Restoration of the Jews Noah proclaimed his faith that the Jews would return and rebuild their ancient homeland. Noah called on America to take the lead in this endeavor. british proposals The British Uganda Program was a plan to give a portion of British East Africa to the Jewish people as a homeland.

This being Armageddon Online, I doubt I'll have to convince too many people that the US is not an immortal state. We are militarily the most powerful of our time, nobody's disputing that, but our economic supremacy is slipping, and culturally, well, let's just say that we may not be within the event horizon of the black hole, but we're starting to feel the pull. So a thousand years from now, when only scholars will speak the English language, what do you suppose they might say about us? Maybe that we overextended ourselves? That our civilization was built upon energy consumption that was unsustainable? Maybe they'll note that we would never have reached our level of achievement without our imperialist policies. Or will it go the other direction? They might say that because literacy and learning were placed in such high regard, maybe we'll be the new standard by which the following ones will be judged, much like ancient Greece. Maybe they'll say that we hadn't yet created an enlightened society, but...

The USS Maine, the first naval vessel named after the state, was a 6682-ton second-class pre-dreadnought battleship originally designated as Armored Cruiser #1. The Dreadnought was an innovated English vessel constructed in 1906 where its artillery was designed as a battery and, as heavy as it was, used steam turbines to make it extremely fast on the water. Military batteries were combined groups of artillery, whether cannons or mortars. The USS Maine, a mirror of the USS Texas was a battleship using artillery batteries, but the design was en echelon, or designed for a kind of wedge formation at sea. The Maine and Texas were mirrors of each other, the Maine's forward turret was off to starboard and her aft turret to port. This type of design limited broadside combat for battleships. On February 14, 1898, the Maine was in the Havana Harbor when an explosion ravished the vessel killing 266 naval soldiers. The U.S. had been watching a revolution of Cuban rebels against the Spanish since 1895, and the Maine...

How did Stalin manage to outmaneuver so many After reading an interesting, and rather unique, book about Stalin, I just posted a very short review of it, at the Amazon’s website. Here it is, for those who might be interested: I agree with those who wrote that Montefiore's voluminous "Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar" is not always easy reading. But it is certainly worthwhile for the light it sheds on relations between Stalin and his close subordinates, those whom he liquidated and those who survived him. Stalin's methods of domination--both brutal and ideological--are skillfully described. The same applies to personal relations between communist leaders. The Soviet Union was the first country in which the idea of proletarian dictatorship, formulated by Marx, was implemented. That is why all aspects of Soviet history are worth studying. Be aware that the number of characters is unusually large. Fortunately, Stalin's family tree and the introductory section entitled "List of Characters" should help...

1945: 9/2/1945: WWII ends Following a soft reopening in mid-January, the Battleship Missouri Memorial will officially reopen Saturday January 30th 2010, one day after the 66th anniversary of the battleship's launch from Brooklyn Navy Yard. The renamed Battleship Missouri Memorial resides in Pearl Harbor, moored a few hundred yards from the USS Arizona, a battleship sunk during Japan's Dec. 7, 1941, attack that forced the U.S. into the war. The surrender documents were signed on the Missouri's deck on Sept. 2, 1945, in Tokyo Bay. The battleship was also used in the Korean and Persian Gulf wars before being decommissioned in 1992. The memorial opened in January 1999.

Napolean is near the Russian capital...thousands of troops...rations depleting...snow storm of Mother Russia. He leaves them...to die patheticaly amongst the russians who would only dare to give them aid. For such a man highly admired by the French people...men willingly ready to join him...would you have just left your own soldiers...

Dr Garry Whilhelm Denke, Sr (b. April 19, 1622; d. February 19, 1699) was a German historian, antiquarian and dentist. He was born in Baden, trained at Schwarzwald School, Black Forest, in metal and wood dentistry. Dr. Denke is best known for his Stonehenge Heelstone flying eagle 1656 hollow stem auger core of Cartridge brass (70% Cu; 30% Zn) and Live oak. After serving in the Thirty Years' War, he collected South Namur Waulsort and South Wales Coalfield white stone (Carboniferous) and coal stone from Stonehenge. Devoutly Catholic, Dr. Denke set out for Jamestown in the year 1666, was German Church historian and made Doctor by Sir William Berkeley governor dentist. He performed Appomattox Indian dentistry. In 1676 Virginia Civil War, Dr. Denke opossumed Bacon's Rebellion and settled at Hell's Gate, Brazos River South Wall, Great Kingdom of the Tejas, Caddo confederacy. The Doctor's elder Waulsort and Wales white stone collection, his crude biology (paleontology) and hollow stem auger core drill are...

I am just wondering for all you people that love the US space program, just how many of you remember our first space station, Skylab: How many of you younger people even knew that the ISS wasn't the first space-station?

March 9, next year, will be the 150th-anniversary of the Battle Of Hampton Roads, including the epic 'first ever' cannonfire-exchange between ironclad sea-vessels... the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia, which fired first, but accidentally nailed the USS Minnesota instead. The Minnesota had run-aground the previous day, running-away from the ominous monstrosity which was the gunboat: Virginia. Seeking to avoid becoming the ironclad's third victim of-the-day, the Minnesota's command probably used the waning tide to beach the ship at a safe distance. The Virginia left with the tide... And the Monitor was called-in to protect the Minnesota. When the tide returned, so did the Virgina. The two gunboats ineffectually blasted each-other for three hours, cannonballs harmlessly clanging-off iron-plating, resulting in horrifying-resonances off the waters of the harbor. Low on ammo, the Virgina basically manuevered-away, ending the battle. The two would never meet again. Within weeks, the two other great...

Not that he was not a highly skilled artist or very intelligent. It's just that, it is possible he is slightly overrated today as an inventor. http://1434.tv/extract.htm

It's time to actually bury Vladimir Lenin's body now. It's what his family wanted. It's what he wanted. It's what 70% of Russians want. On embalmed-display for 87-years, it's starting to approach the creepiness factor. Vladimir Putin's against it, and it may become an election-issue... http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2011/0128/Goodbye-Lenin-Russians-consider-burying-former-Soviet-leader-s-corpse-finally I doubt that it'll effect Red Square-tourism one bit. Most people may not even be aware that Lenin's body is still on-view.

Most of it is still buried on Kosrae, the isle where The Lenora was shipwrecked. We gotta go get it... Longitude: 163.0 East, latitude: 5.3 North. I read James Michener's Rascals In Paradise long ago, but I happened to pop-in Nate And Hayes on VHS the other day, and it reminded me of the treasure. The Lenora was supposedly the most notorious ship in the 19th-Century Pacific. -Blown onto a Kosrae-reef in 1874, where Hayes and his crew decided to set-up a coconut-oil (copra) business, under the umbrella of Britain. Hayes eventually raped a 9-year-old girl, then fled in a small boat as a British warship came to investigate. -from Tom Bentley; The Micronesia Grand Tour;